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- From: john b <jointprd@crl.com>
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- Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Vacant Job Positions
- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:07:29 -0800
- Organization: G&R
- Message-ID: <3120B741.3482@crl.com>
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- > > On the other hand, if I have no degree, but have been doing doing
- > > client/server, sockets, daemons, database, etc., programming, for
- > > the last few years, many places won't even read my resume. This
- > > seems strange to me.
- >
-
- I think we're spending more time on this post than corporate America is
- spending on interviewing. :)
-
- Correct my summary of this issue if I'm wrong.
-
- 1) Corporate America does not recognize that there are very competent
- "non-degreed computer" people out there.
- 2) Corporate America is probably bypassing a great source of knowledge.
- 3) Most of corporate America is prejudice.
- 4) All things equal, a degree will always win out.
- 5) Having a degree does not make you any better than anyone else.
- 6) Not having a degree more than likely will limit initial opportunities,
- but if persistent things will work out.
- 7) Good experience is worth just as much as a degree.
-
- Just to share a personal experience, I recall working with two newly
- hired people. One degreed, the other one not. They both were terrible
- programmers. Both of them got fired. Both of them got what they had
- coming. The company I worked for was just as eager to get rid of the
- degreed person as quickly as the non degreed person. Hmmm.... maybe we
- should start a post about people fired instead of hired. Hell, then we
- would probably get the ACLU in here. "The firing of this degreed person
- was a blatant attempt to undermind the acedemic standards of this great
- nation of ours. I say that his civil rights were not only unfairly
- sabotaged, but the firing is also a threat to every degreed person out
- there. If you think this firing will stop here, you're kidding yourself.
- Every degreed person should see this as a threat to their very being."
-
- Yeah, whatever.
-
- Well, at least there's no denying that once you have the job and if you
- blow it (degreed or not), you will get fired. And that's the way it
- should be (assuming of course that you don't work for the government -
- Dopt!!! There's another thread. Who else can I hack?) .
-
- My final $.02.
-
- JB
-